The UK Finn Masters championship was held at Roadford this year and the classic Finns came out to play with their newer, sleeker cousins. Six classic Finns staretd with the rest of the fleet and soon found that their acceleration off the line and speed up the beat couldn't match the new baots, but that downwind the speeds were similar. Two races were sailed on Friday in just under 20 knots, three on Saturday in slightly less wind and 2 on Sunday in 10 to 12 knots. Peter Vinton managed to get in among the newer boats on several occasions with Graham Brooks also having a go, sailing K384, the first double bottomed wooden taylor Finn. In the final results Peter was first (K197, Fairey), Alan Williams 2nd (K424, glass Taylor), Graham Brookes 3rd (K384, wood taylor), Mark Belshaw 4th (K129 Fairey), David Harker 5th (K219 Pearson) and Ronney Ball 6th (glass Taylor)
Tuesday, 16 November 2010
Classic Finns at Roadford CVRDA, May 2010
The three day event at Roadford was shortened by the weather. Saturday was good and sunny with a light breeze but was used for a parade, photo shoot and two fun races around the lake. Sunday was lost to strong breezes and so on Monday, although just as windy, three races were held. Nine classic Finns had entered, but only six braved the conditions. Tough beats were rewarded by fast and furious reaches and Finns dominated the CVRDA results, taking all top positions. After CVRDA handicaps were applied Peter Vinton was first in all thhree races, with another Fairey Finn sailed by Mark Belshaw (K129) 2nd, Rob Butler sailing SA470 (a Morrison Finn) 3rd, David Harker (K219, Pearson) 4th, Alan Williams (K424, glass Taylor) 5th and Andrew Wyer (K465, Warwick) 6th.
Tuesday, 2 June 2009
CVRDA at Clywedog
Friday, 20 March 2009
Classic Finn Rigs
This picture shows the three ages of the Finn rig. The first masts were wooden with initaially cotton sails then terylene. K197 has a Bruder mast and an Elvstrom sail, dating from around 1964. From 1972 alloy masts became common and GBR 417 sports a Needlespar 3M mast with a Hood sail. GBR shows the modern era, a Pata carbon wing mast with a mylar sail.
The basic maxim is that a heavy guy needs a stiff mast and a lighter guy a softer mast. However the combination of sideways and fore and aft bend has occupied whole careers! In addition it’s very important that the sail matches the mast bend so it’s normal to buy them together, whether new or second-hand.
For UK classic finns, Collar wooden masts, made at Oxford, were the basic club level Finn masts, rather stiff and heavy.
Bruder masts from Brazil were the very best wooden masts, winner of the Gold Cup many times.
Boyce wooden masts were very successful in the last days before aluminium came in. After 1972 John Boyce at Burnham-on-Crouch also made aluminium masts, using an oval tube, cut and welded at the top to produce the taper. Very successful in the OK class they were never very common in Finns.
Needlespar masts were boldly selected for the Olympic games in 1972 to reduce the variability of the wooden masts supplied to the competitors. (All Finns were supplied for the Olympics by the host country). The early masts (Needlespar 3B) were oval tubes at the bottom with a series of reducing diameter tubes for the top mast, glued together and turned down on the outside to provide a smooth taper. These masts were rather stiff so only suited the heaviest helms. Later the bottom section was also round (Needlespar 3M), but with thicker walls at the side than fore and aft. Different bend characteristics could be achieved with shorter or longer top masts, to produce stiffer or softer masts as required. The bend characteristics can therefore be guessed at by measuring the height of the top mast join. Needlespar also produced a few softer Delta masts with a D section bottom tube. These were standard for the Lightening 368 class.
Mast bend characteristics are usually defined by supporting the mast at the base ring and deck ring then hanging a fixed weight from the top. Bend is then measured at the top, half and quarter heights. Both sideways bend and fore and aft can be measured in this way.
In the days of wooden masts it was generally accepted that mast bend could be selected to suit a wide range of helm weights. However masts varied a lot and so much adjusting and swapping of masts took place to get a fast mast.
Aluminium masts introduced much greater reliability and mast selection became much less of an issue. However alloy masts were generally much stiffer and so lighter helms (less than 15 stone) became less competitive.
Since the early 90s carbon masts have become dominant. Initially these had very similar bends to alloy masts but they have now developed to have a much more even bend between the black bands, with extra bend being either below the bottom band or below the deck. A claimed advantage of carbon masts is that it has re-introduced the possibility of softer masts for lighter helms.
For UK classic finns, Collar wooden masts, made at Oxford, were the basic club level Finn masts, rather stiff and heavy.
Bruder masts from Brazil were the very best wooden masts, winner of the Gold Cup many times.
Boyce wooden masts were very successful in the last days before aluminium came in. After 1972 John Boyce at Burnham-on-Crouch also made aluminium masts, using an oval tube, cut and welded at the top to produce the taper. Very successful in the OK class they were never very common in Finns.
Needlespar masts were boldly selected for the Olympic games in 1972 to reduce the variability of the wooden masts supplied to the competitors. (All Finns were supplied for the Olympics by the host country). The early masts (Needlespar 3B) were oval tubes at the bottom with a series of reducing diameter tubes for the top mast, glued together and turned down on the outside to provide a smooth taper. These masts were rather stiff so only suited the heaviest helms. Later the bottom section was also round (Needlespar 3M), but with thicker walls at the side than fore and aft. Different bend characteristics could be achieved with shorter or longer top masts, to produce stiffer or softer masts as required. The bend characteristics can therefore be guessed at by measuring the height of the top mast join. Needlespar also produced a few softer Delta masts with a D section bottom tube. These were standard for the Lightening 368 class.
Mast bend characteristics are usually defined by supporting the mast at the base ring and deck ring then hanging a fixed weight from the top. Bend is then measured at the top, half and quarter heights. Both sideways bend and fore and aft can be measured in this way.
In the days of wooden masts it was generally accepted that mast bend could be selected to suit a wide range of helm weights. However masts varied a lot and so much adjusting and swapping of masts took place to get a fast mast.
Aluminium masts introduced much greater reliability and mast selection became much less of an issue. However alloy masts were generally much stiffer and so lighter helms (less than 15 stone) became less competitive.
Since the early 90s carbon masts have become dominant. Initially these had very similar bends to alloy masts but they have now developed to have a much more even bend between the black bands, with extra bend being either below the bottom band or below the deck. A claimed advantage of carbon masts is that it has re-introduced the possibility of softer masts for lighter helms.
The matching of a sail’s luff curve to the mast bend characteristics has always been a Finn art from the earliest days when Paul Elvestrom realised its importance.
In the late 60s and early 70s many club sailors used Seahorse or Banks sails on a Collar mast, with Musto sails becoming popular, often with a Boyce wooden mast. The top sailors were probably using Bruder masts with Elvestrom or Raudaschal sails
With the introduction of alloy Needlespar masts Musto initially were the common sailmaker but from the mid 70s onwards North became dominant. Musto continued Finn sail development however right up to the present day and have always produced fast sails alongside North. No other sail maker in the UK has invested as much in development as these two sailmakers so with the odd exception (say Sobstad for early plastic sails) no other sailmakers have managed to produce significant numbers of fast Finn sails.
Sail selection for the classic Finn owner is a bit of a problem because of course no-one still makes sails for alloy masts, let alone wooden ones.
The problem is that the bend characteristics are quite different between different masts. The Needlespar was relatively stiff low down and had a lot of flexibility in the top mast. Early carbon masts were similar but the later carbon masts aim for a more stable sail shape by limiting the bend between the black bands. Therefore the flexibility is built in either at deck level or below deck, allowing the boom to be sheeted down to the deck but with a limited, and very even, curve in the sail. These masts are characterised by quarter and three-quarter height deflections being very similar. This means that a modern mylar sail is unlikely to have sufficient luff curve to match a Needlespar, and almost certainly not enough curve in the top half of the sail.
In the late 60s and early 70s many club sailors used Seahorse or Banks sails on a Collar mast, with Musto sails becoming popular, often with a Boyce wooden mast. The top sailors were probably using Bruder masts with Elvestrom or Raudaschal sails
With the introduction of alloy Needlespar masts Musto initially were the common sailmaker but from the mid 70s onwards North became dominant. Musto continued Finn sail development however right up to the present day and have always produced fast sails alongside North. No other sail maker in the UK has invested as much in development as these two sailmakers so with the odd exception (say Sobstad for early plastic sails) no other sailmakers have managed to produce significant numbers of fast Finn sails.
Sail selection for the classic Finn owner is a bit of a problem because of course no-one still makes sails for alloy masts, let alone wooden ones.
The problem is that the bend characteristics are quite different between different masts. The Needlespar was relatively stiff low down and had a lot of flexibility in the top mast. Early carbon masts were similar but the later carbon masts aim for a more stable sail shape by limiting the bend between the black bands. Therefore the flexibility is built in either at deck level or below deck, allowing the boom to be sheeted down to the deck but with a limited, and very even, curve in the sail. These masts are characterised by quarter and three-quarter height deflections being very similar. This means that a modern mylar sail is unlikely to have sufficient luff curve to match a Needlespar, and almost certainly not enough curve in the top half of the sail.
There are still some good condition terylene sails around dating from the 1970s and 80s and if one of these can be found it's probably the best choice for a classic Finn, matched to a Needlespar 3M mast.
Early, round carbon mast are relatively cheap and can be used, but the bend doesn't match a modern wing mast, so they're best used with a terylene sail or an early mylar one.
Thursday, 5 March 2009
Finn Weight Changes
The weight of Finns has changed over the years. Not only has the figure changed but also the state of the boat when weighed so it's quite difficult to track the changes.
The first rules stated that the boat had to weigh no less than 105kg without floorboards, toe straps, centreboard and other loose gear.
Minimum weights were also specified for the rudder (4kg), the boom (5kg) and the mast (10kg).
In 1995 the minimum mast weight was reduced to 8kg.
In 1997 the minimum hull weight was reduced by 5kg and in 2008 to it's current minimum of 116kg.
However the boat is now weighed with the centreboard and control lines (except mainsheet) so the hullweight has reduced quite a bit. In addition most centreboards are now on or near the maximum of 13kg (minimum 11kg) whereas most older boats had 10kg centreboards.
My Fairey Finn weighs 105.5kg without ropes, centreboard and floorboards. With all the gear matching the current rules it weighs 124.5kg, so 8.5kg heavier than a modern Finn.
Saturday, 28 February 2009
Fairey Finn K197 Django
I first saw K197 when Ed brought her down to the club in Bristol Docks. I begged him for a sail but initially she did not inspire me very much. She had been converted for cruising and had lockers built in to the hull each side of the centreboard case, extending forward under the decks. The wind was light and the sail flat, so not a lot was going on.
Ed later sold her to another CVRDA member and then a few years later I saw an advert in the local paper for a Fairey Finn at a reasonable price and found it was the same boat, now owned by another CVRDA member, Lyn Gardner.
I went and had a good look. The main consideration was whether I could remove the cruising conversion and restore the boat to being a reasonable racing dinghy, which I thought I could so in October 2005 she became mine.
One of the nicest things about the boat is that she came with the original Bruder wooden mast and an original Elvstrom sail. Another Miller and Whitworth sail was also included but before racing seriously I'd need to find a Needlespar mast and a matching sail. Before the first sail I cut out the forward lockers and forward floorboards and removed fairleads and rowlock plates.
For my first sail I used the M&W sail and very quickly realised that the mast was far too upright. A Finn is supposed to sail upwind with the boom on the deck but I couldn't get the boom anywhere near. After that sail I adjusted the mast step and from then on the boat felt a lot better and was certainly faster already.
Ed told me about the early history of the boat. She was not originally sold by Fairey because she didn't measure and only some years later was she sold and modified to make her measure correctly. This was, I believe in 1964 when she became K197 (the number on the Elvstrom sail). She wasn't used much before being converted for cruising and then kept in a barn in Norfolk for a long time, from where Ed bought her in 2001.
The early sails were all about getting the very basics sorted. The mainsheet was 4:1 and much too short, so that was changed to 3:1 and a longer mainsheet bought so the boom could go out square. The toe straps were right at the sides of the cockpit so you couldn't get your feet under them, so they were moved. Both main sheet and traveller cleats, although nice original Tufnol, didn't cleat so had to be replaced. Meanwhile I was enjoying sailing the boat and beginning to get some good results in our winter series.
In January 2004 I bought a Needlespar mast and matching Musto sail (complete with British Aerospace logos as it was ex Richard Stenhouse). I then had to fit control lines and cleats as it hadn't previously had any. As the boat had a forward bulkhead in place, and knowing how well many old boats sink after a capsize I was keen to keep this so I ran all the control lines over the deck, but still using the standard purchase system. Now the boat was beginning to get sorted and starting to look and behave more like a racing Finn, at least as far as I could recall from sailing another Fairey Finn, K155 in the late 70s. And, inspired by there now being 2 classic Finns racing in our club (the other being a 1972 Mader), another member bought a Finn (a well sorted Vanguard) and we started having some very good racing.
So now I have a Finn that's got two characters. I can use the Bruder mast and Elvstrom sail and race it in CVRDA events just as it was intended in 1964. I only do this in light winds because I don't want to damage the rig. I find it's much slower upwind than other Finns with this rig but just as fast downwind. Then for regular CVRDA racing I can change to the Needlespar rig with the Musto sail, which is pretty competitive, or for club racing use a Carbospars mast with a mylar sail, which almost (but not quite) keeps up with the most modern Finns.
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